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ODD versus PDA
  • Hello I am a parent with a child already diagnosed with ODD but been referred for an assessment in ASD the same centre specialises in PDA too and been reading the diagnostic table and can see some similair things in their with my son but he already has a diagnoses of ODD can a child have both ODD and PDA?

    My son has ADHD and ODD as a combined diagnostic at age 7years old his ODD is labled as SEVERE too, could my son have PDA instead of ODD?

    J is nearly 10 now

    Sorry for the questions.

    JsMum
  • webbwebb
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    Hi and welcome to the site,
    Sorry to seem stupid but could you give us the full title, ODD?
    Many children can have a combination of disorders, ADHD and Asperger Syndrome is very common so is the combination of Dyslexia and Dyspraxia.
    Sometimes our children are given one diagnosis when they are little, say pre-school and then later on say 8-10 yrs they are given a more acurrate diagnosis.
    I wouldn't like to say where the blame lies for that!
    Post again so we can talk some more.
    Paula
  • Do you mean Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)?
    found this info. regarding the disorder
    Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)
    What is it?
    ODD is a psychiatric disorder that is characterized by two different sets of problems. These are aggressiveness and a tendency to purposefully bother and irritate others. It is often the reason that people seek treatment. When ODD is present with ADHD, depression, tourette's, anxiety disorders, or other neuropsychiatric disorders, it makes life with that child far more difficult. For Example, ADHD plus ODD is much worse than ADHD alone, often enough to make people seek treatment. The criteria for ODD are:

    A pattern of negativistic, hostile, and defiant behavior lasting at least six months during which four or more of the following are present:
    1. Often loses temper
    2. often argues with adults
    3. often actively defies or refuses to comply with adults' requests or rules
    4. often deliberately annoys people
    5. often blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
    6. is often touchy or easily annoyed by others
    7. is often angry and resentful
    8. is often spiteful and vindictive
    The disturbance in behavior causes clinically significant impairment in social, academic, or occupational functioning.
    How often is "often"?
    All of the criteria above include the word "often". But what exactly does that mean? Recent studies have shown that these behaviors occur to a varying degree in all children. These researchers have found that the "often" is best solved by the following criteria.

    Has occurred at all during the last three months-
    8. is spiteful and vindictive
    5. blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
    Occurs at least twice a week
    6. is touchy or easily annoyed by others
    1. loses temper
    2. argues with adults
    3. actively defies or refuses to comply with adults' requests or rules
    Occurs at least four times per week
    7. is angry and resentful
    4. deliberately annoys people


    I think that if the centre carrying out his assessment are experience with PDA they will see the difference between these two conditions. I understand that often children may have more than one condition, for example my son showed some behaviours which are more "aspergers" than PDA and I was told that he could have traits of both - the important thing is to deal with the condition which is causing most issues in their life - and for my son it was the behaviours associated with PDA..
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