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BBC Article. Ashamed to be the mum with a violent son .
  • Holly59
    Posts: 2,586
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/the_pru_pupil_referral_unit

    Has anyone suggested PDA ? The five year old girl could also be another possibilble PDAer .

    Pat xx
  • Holly59
    Posts: 2,586
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05qqk5c/contact

    Contact details for the Victoria Derbyshire Show .

    Please promote PDA Awareness .

    Pat xx
  • Watching VD show and getting so worked up! Boy clearly struggling with sensory overload not being understood. PRU teacher saying the children are not naughty, just making poor choices. And they show they can turn around a child and return them to mainstream. Well funny thing that child with low arousal environment learns to 'behave' and then there will be the expectation they can return to mainstream and it will work out well without any adjustments.

    Not once so far has ASD or PDA been mentioned...but guess what! Parent and child blaming is rife. Blaming in a passive way i.e. not all PRU children come from a broken home, not all children have attachment disorder.

    I'm not knocking the PRU shown. They are clearly trying to turn things around and they will have some children who are just in need of clear guidelines/boundaries but I fear a number of these children will be ASD (PDA) and they will be set to fail if sent back to mainstream

  • Holly59
    Posts: 2,586

    Watching VD show and getting so worked up! Boy clearly struggling with sensory overload not being understood. PRU teacher saying the children are not naughty, just making poor choices. And they show they can turn around a child and return them to mainstream. Well funny thing that child with low arousal environment learns to 'behave' and then there will be the expectation they can return to mainstream and it will work out well without any adjustments.

    Not once so far has ASD or PDA been mentioned...but guess what! Parent and child blaming is rife. Blaming in a passive way i.e. not all PRU children come from a broken home, not all children have attachment disorder.

    I'm not knocking the PRU shown. They are clearly trying to turn things around and they will have some children who are just in need of clear guidelines/boundaries but I fear a number of these children will be ASD (PDA) and they will be set to fail if sent back to mainstream



    Totally agree . Please contact VD show and share your thoughts .

    Pat xx
  • HarHer
    Posts: 336
    Hi,

    My youngest (older than the children in the article) went to a PRU as a 'medical' case. The very small environment (he was taught 1:1 and introduced slowly to a group of 4 students) helped him enormously. His tutor said that most of the young people in the medical group were individuals with ASD.

    My son tried mainstream college earlier this year, but he was unable to cope. He is now on a training course, in a very structured small group.

    My son never really coped at school. He simply conformed and remained in the bottom sets in nearly all subjects. Once he could no longer coast (Y 9-10) he became avoidant and aggressive. It could be the case that some of the children in the article will return to mainstream environments and perhaps they will be able to conform for a few years, but there is enormous pressure on children in the senior years of school and individuals who are only just getting by will be at tremendous risk of breaking.


  • RhanHRhanH
    Posts: 1,131
    Our local PRU was instrumental in helping us get the right diagnosis and help for our daughter. Without their support and understanding we would not have found out about PDA as early as we did, have an EHCP or transferred to an understanding and appropriate special school. We know we’ve been lucky but the PRU does hold a special place in our heart, they can do far more than look at behaviour if you’re prepared to work with them.
  • Not once so far has ASD or PDA been mentioned...but guess what! Parent and child blaming is rife. Blaming in a passive way i.e. not all PRU children come from a broken home, not all children have attachment disorder.



    Agree @oldandwornout, not watched the video if there is one, but this is a big problem. Not looking into potential conditions that explain why a child behaves the way they do. Just labelling them as behaviourally challenged and sticking them in PRUs.

    I wonder if at any time this little boy has had an ASD or ADHD assessment.
  • Holly59
    Posts: 2,586

    Not once so far has ASD or PDA been mentioned...but guess what! Parent and child blaming is rife. Blaming in a passive way i.e. not all PRU children come from a broken home, not all children have attachment disorder.



    Agree @oldandwornout, not watched the video if there is one, but this is a big problem. Not looking into potential conditions that explain why a child behaves the way they do. Just labelling them as behaviourally challenged and sticking them in PRUs.

    I wonder if at any time this little boy has had an ASD or ADHD assessment.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05qqk5c

    I find it so sad that there is more understanding of ASD amongst a group of mums on this thread than in a specialised Unit .


    Pat xx
  • Perhaps if they stopped fobbing off children with attachment disorder labels and listening to the mothers they would find that everything would fall into place without PRUs being the first port of call.
  • Perhaps if they stopped fobbing off children with attachment disorder labels and listening to the mothers they would find that everything would fall into place without PRUs being the first port of call.



    I was recently invited to training on Attachment disorder (in a professional capacity). The training was very good and was lapped up by the SENCOs however, Attachment Disorder stems from either trauma or neglect..... all feeds into the parent blaming mantra and assumptions that family is dysfunctional
  • PDA_ASD_Parent
    Posts: 4,188
    Exactly!!

    "The Overdiagnosis & Misdiagnosis of Attachment Disorder"
    http://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/58c8f1_c414ab0452b94c4bb3a80a5dfd6e54f1.pdf?index=true

    Others here, including parent blame... http://evolutian.wixsite.com/planetautism/infofactsheets

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